The wheels of change

[Pegasus]

Well since the beginning of the clan or so the stories go, or should I say legend, the clan name has been symbollic of the way the clan has been run.

The clan name has been {ImperialArmy} since the beginning, and remains so even now,if you know your Latin that is.

The clan approaches its 6th year within EE:AoC and the 7th from EE1, and with it comes the second crisis that has come upon it. This is the way the clan should be run in the dying days of Empire Earth, representing the two ideas of thought. Though I am new to this branch, I classify myself as the Old Guard or Old Corp due to my time within the clans other branches, while on the other side are the newest members who represent the New Corp.

Maybe I do not wish change, and would like to remain in the Status Quo, but even I see that change in some form is required, but I can not condone the ideas of the complete removal of what makes this clan what it is.

We represent the old ways of Empire Earth, when clans had rank structures to show dedication and skill, however since the many veterans are gone, we no longer have a standard to set the ranks. So this needs to be changed.

This has been discussed for a while, with many suggestions being put forward. Now we all know not all of the members are what we would call combatant elites, but they serve a purpose and that is devotion to the clan, while there are those who get ranks due to skill alone. Many complain that the current ranking system does not show true skill for what it is, with many trully skilled members held back or below or equal to less skilled members. This has shown to be irritating to these, for as the old say, the young do not possess the patience gained by age or wisdom.

Now here are the ideas discussed, which will appear in the next post

[Pegasus]

The school of thoughts are the following, I will begin from the Old Guards to the New Guard, showing the extremes to the next extreme with the ideas that existed in the middle.

Idea 1:

The ranks remain just as it is, but show those who are trully skilled by choice with immediate show of their ranks. To display those who have been through dedication or usefulness in the clan we add another symbol to the tag beside that of rank, ie

Clan tag{Sgt}{C}name this shows that this Sergeant gained rank through skill

Clan tag{Sgt}{L}name this shows that this was due to helping the clans day to day running

Idea 2

This was my idea, which some of the more liberal Senior staff believe can work, still retain some form of the ranking system, and emphasise the old 5 level ranking system

Leader- representing Thylen and Airwolf.

Admins/Founders- Representing those like AoD, Pegasus, Charles

Moderator- Representing those who help in the running of the clan cosntantly such as McMuffinwarrior, Skylite, Blackdutchie

Veterans - Representing those already in teh clan who have been active the most, as well as those who already possess this rank

Members - Any original members who can not achieve veteran, as well as new members. Over time those who remain active gain veteran.

Idea 3

Suggested by some, similiar to the above

Leader
Council
Veteran
Member

I see barely any difference, but fails to distinguish those who do the more day to day running of the clan.

Idea 4

Complete removal of ranks

I personally hate this as it removes the Army symbolism from the clan

Part 3 will discuss changes in hierarchy.

[Pegasus]

And finally the heirarchy changes

Idea 1

Keep the hierarchy as it is, this represents the old style of clan management

Leader - Airwolf and Thylen
3rd in command- AoD
Admins- Charles, Pegasus and others for branches
Moderators - Those selected to help day to day running
Senior Members- Highest Ranks
Members- Everyone Else

Idea 2
Leaders-Airwolf and Thylen
Council-Selected members chosen by votes
Members- Everyone Else

I do not like this idea, since many clans have this, so would remove what i special about the clan, also councils occassionally work, but too much tension if the above hierarchy is not there to overrule or intervene

Idea 3
Leaders- Airwolf and Thylen
Members- Everyone else

This is the extreme, the very simplistic system, if it is enforces, you will see that we have 80% of the time no leadership.

So discuss

Empire Earth's current Administrator Pegasus

[blackdutchie]

a long story cut short, i suggest part 2: option 1 and part 3: option 1

[Chaplain AoD]

Or you could just go with mine. Lol, see mine worked out in the end

[Mcmuffinwarrior]

The problem with the one we have apparently selected (idea 1), is that it only gives the problem a different name. Yes, it keeps everyone happy in the short term; Those who gained rank though loyalty keep rank, those who are superior players arent under them and so feel annoyed @ the system. BUT there is still the problem that we will still need to reshuffle the ranks- which could be sooner than later, certain players coming through are very skillful indeed and have a equal (or perhaps greater) skill level than some of our leaders. We should be pleased that we are attracting these players to our clan, and keeping them happy will take the clan to a ne level.

The current (newly appointed system) poses another problem; if there are {Sgt}{C} and {Sgt}{L} it is confusing to know who is higher, espicially so to outsiders of the clan. This is not helped by further introducing another tag from a different idea {M} which makes the system even more untidy.

As far as i can see there are 3 options:

1/ stick with idea 1 system, to delay further choice.
2/ go back to old system and reshuffle.
3/ simplify the old system as suggested in idea 2. This will make sure that there is minimal jealousy and no confusion. ?At cost of the army clan base?

Lets discuss with this with the whole clan,

Mcmuffinwarrior

[Chaplain AoD]

Let sleeping dogs lie. When it wakes up again, then we will find another solution

[magiclordes]

uhu.... i am baq btw and nooneon aoc its dead..